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Indonesia and Malaysia= the truly asia??

Journal Entry: Mon Aug 24, 2009, 2:33 PM
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actually this is the topic that I really dont want to came up with, because the topic is about two countrys that having a cold war within the people and start a fight in many ways..

but Im from Indonesia.. and despite I have so many friends for Malaysia and I adore them so.. I realize they dunno anything about this.. (maybe they will think Indonesian people are stupid for angry with no good reason.. ^^; )

and nowadays this topic is getting to my nerve..geez.. why this fight are never stop?

I want people to know about this and know WHY we are fighting..

Yes, Indonesia and Malaysia is having a fight right now if you dont aware...
its not like heavy arm war of sumthing..but in the internet world.. the war are so obvious..
Indonesia Calling Malaysia people malingshit (thief) and Malaysia calling Indonesian people Indon ( servant), Indonesia and Malaysia hacker fight each other and corrupted each other website and blog..

In Indonesia, many people are mad and really HATE Malaysian people..I dunno about Malaysian.. maybe they hate us to??

few week ago there is a bomb in Indonesia, kill lotsa people, make Indonesian tourism have a bad name, and make The -oh-so-Famous Manchester United soccer player canceled their visit to Indonesia..

lotsa Indonesian people hate the bombers, and lotsa Indonesian soccer fans are in rage..
especially after they found out, the mastermind form this bomber they say.. are from Malaysia.. and they know that after planing to Visit Indonesia the MU team are going to play in Malaysia..

(my friend :iconcyu: recently made a journal about this, and many Malaysia people are mad about his journal. maybe some will mad with my journal to..?)

for Indonesia Side.. lotsa thing is become a reason why we hate Malaysian

but mainly is because of this..: a culture thief...

(before you are in rage and Mad because what I write above, please read this journal carefully and read until finish before you decide to gave comment )


and here is good journal that tell you the fact and the reasons why..
(copy paste from [link] )


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Malaysian Government's Culture Confusion

This is a topic I've long avoided, but it just keeps coming up.
To my friends in Malaysia, please do understand that this is not me being angry at you, not me insulting or giving negative sentiments about you or other Malaysians.
This is directed to the stupid people in your government and tourism board.

Since 2004, before Malaysia launched "Malaysia, Truly Asia", the country intended to boost its tourism revenue. It couldn't compete with Singapore as a mega-polis, even with the world's tallest building in their backyard, so they invested in their diversity, taking advantage of its commonwealth status. Displaying all traditions from around Asia in their country, the country went with the slogan "Malaysia, Truly Asia" that a certain advertising agency came up with.

The campaign was a hit. People liked the idea and made their way to Malaysia for holiday. This success however brought a startling revelation: What's Malaysia's own traditional culture?
Yes, this was the question on every tourist's mind. In fact, on a business trip back in 2004, I asked my taxi driver to take me to an authentic Malaysian restaurant, and he took me to this restaurant which main course and specialty was white Tom Yam. If you know me and my epicurious sense, you'd know that I would always ask the servant or anyone working at the restaurant about the food, and they said it was Malay Tom Yam. "Its different!" they said. But it was the same to me.

Does Malaysia have a culture? Sure they do.
One of the negative side of any British occupation is that the British brought in their own culture to the table. Everybody would be speaking English and behave in a British like manner. Unlike India, Australia, & New Zealand, Malaysia was full of spice and controlled by Monarchs. Just like the Mangkunegaran kingdom in Solo, this made it easier for the colonist to infuse the country with the British ways and made sure there is minimum resistance. Many-many tradition which is not suitable to the colonist were made out to rot and disappear.

What makes it different from other British colonials? Well, name me a handful of Malay tribes, heroes or kings that defy the colonialist and is noted as a hero? I went to a lot of museum in KL and found none.

Cultures survived the British Imperialism because of resistance. Cultures exist as a way to unite the people. India have many small tribes and cults that resisted the Imperialism, The Samoans of New Zealand are amazing people who traveled to the Micronesians and Hawaiian islands by small boats, these made them strong to their cultures. The Aborigine lived in the most uncomfortable places in Africa which colonialist wouldn't touch, this made their culture survived. Canada and Australia had to invest in research of their culture to get it back.

Malaysia's culture?
Believe me, they had plenty. But now most of it has gone. Only some survived, most came from Borneo which the colonials didn't touch because of the dense jungles and the fierce warriors (BBC Education's : Elizabeth's Kingdom). Yes, this was startling revelation indeed. If the Malaysians continued their Truly Asia campaign without showing that their culture was a majority of the cultures present in their country, they are afraid that people will leave and think less.

A Resolution!
Years back, Malaysia claimed and announced to the world that Satay was part of their culture. They even made it legal by having it copyrighted. Now, how could a food that belonged to many cultures and countries be made into a copyright?? The Japanese have Robatayaki, the Chinese and all the way up to Bali have a dish like it. All meat in a stick. That move made all of those meat on a stick Malaysian. Being a commonwealth, they had great access. The one who made it first official was the Encyclopedia Brittanica in the 90s.
The Malaysian government soon started with food, claiming one by one food that are present in Malaysia as their own.

Now then, if they could do it with food, why not culture?? Who better to take it from? Why their friendly neighborhood cousin across the strait of course. Indonesia has millions of traditions, lets go get some.

At first, I didn't give much thought. Malaysians and the Melayu do share many traits and culture. Still, claiming it as the sole owner of that tradition does bug me a lot. But then the become greedy, and absurd.

The Malaysian Government claimed that Angklung is a Malaysian culture. What?!?? That doesn't even make sense. Bamboo instruments that are in the Melayu/Sumatra area resembles nothing like the angklung. After that, batik. Not the motives of Melayu, but the motives of Java. Those motives have history relevance and how it became that way, but the Malay government still put a copyright on it. After that Reog, Kuda lumping, and Jali-jali.

Reog and Kuda Lumping?? Yeah sure, the Malaysian ancestors belived in self whipping, sacrifice, homosexuality and black magic. And then Jali-jali, a song that is closely tied with the Dutch occupation. It gets even absurd...

Pendet. A dance from Bali. There is no dance like this in Java or Sumatra, no way that it would influence upwards (if you study history, cultures spread through Pangaea downwards and evolved individually after the ice age ended and the sea level risen). If any of these tradition are claimed by Malay, it should be present in an almost similar form in either Sumatra or Borneo.
To completely insult us, the Pendet was copyrighted on Indonesia's Independence day.

A Malay artist who is a friend of mine, on his blog posted about Kuda Kepang (Malay's version of Kuda Lumping), about how the tradition was brought by Javanese workers who migrated from Java...

Well lets see here, I don't think the Dutch ever traded slaves with the British. An Indonesian would move out of Indonesia was during the PKI era in the 60s. I don't really see it becoming a tradition unless its out and recognized as a culture. So is Tom Yam a Malay food? I mean, the Thai immigrants brought it in longer before kuda lumping came to Malaysia?

What ever the outcome, over the years this has been a big cause of the degradation of Indonesia-Malaysia relations. Most people here have negative sentiments about Malaysia, and its growing. I just hope the Malaysian people are aware of their governments actions and take a stand to stop it. I really hope the relations between our countries will get better soon.

Once again I apologize to Malaysians everywhere. I didn't mean to offend you, but your government actions on my favorite day of the year, Independence day, offended me. If you have never heard of these tradition, dance, etc, please make it known. Write it in your blog, protest your government.

Yang nulis Chandra Marsono™

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as a person.. I dont hate Malaysian people, we Indonesian do so many bad stuff to.. (yeah.. like there is a good country that never do any harm to others anywei.. )

I have so many good friend form Malaysia, that I also know In DA.. (Im terible sorry guys if you offended with my journal.. =_=a ) lotsa Malaysia people even don't aware if this is happening..
as a citizen.. Im upset about what our society think and our media said about what Malaysia people done to us..
(especially when Malaysia copyrighted Angklung.. noooooh that is came from my tribe.. ;A; )


but despite all of that...

I also still remember that our first President have try to attack military Malaysia in the past and EPIC fail..:lol:

I remember my child hood singing to Isabela song from 'Search'famous band from Malaysia and how we adore Siti Nurhaliza..famous singer (and very preteeeeeeeeh >///< ) from Malaysia

I know there is so many Malaysia artist are playing soap opera/simetron here in Indonesia and be popular..

I know that sinetron Soleha and peterpan band are very popular there...

I know that many Indonesian people are go there to find better job in Malaysia, because they dont find it here..

I know our popular artist Bunga Citra lestari are married with Malaysia citizen and they are such a romantic couple..

Malaysia and Indonesia are neighborhood, its like we are childhood friend, or maybe more, we are blood relative, with so many resemblance..

we are ASIA!

its better if we both live in peace right? hand in hand and working together to fight the American and the Eroupe.. (just kidding), all this fighting I think are stupid..

I wonder what we supposed to do to stop it?

I wonder what if Hetalia picture the relationship between Indonesia and Malaysia.. (Out of topic sorry :D )

some said that Culture CAN NOT be copyrighted.. because culture is affecting each other tribes and country from every single part of the world.. its belong to all human.. not to a country

what do you think about this?


NB: thanks to :iconnanjung110: buat linkna..

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:iconhumantyphoon89:
apology from malaysia and open mind from indonesia would be a good start

cheers

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menurutku sih malah ad pihak ke-3 yg mendalangi (tretektek tek) di balik smua ini. Ingin negara berdekatan pecah perang. IMHO loh
Soalnya aku punya cukup banyak tmn di malaysia dan mereka jg ga setuju sikap colong menyolong itu
I dont hate mayalsian people, I just hate people who behind these matters.
Heran gue.. masa masakan padang apaa gitu di klaim. ahaha aneh2 aja.

buat aku, ga ad tuh klaim2an
Krn gimana jg Culture itu adl perpaduan. Tidak jg kita, tdk jg Malay yg menciptakan. Alkulturasi. Bukankah sudah saatnya kita saling menghargai dan ga main embat sana sini? T___T

Dunia kok disuruh damai aja susah.

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Ha... ha... ha...
Ck... ck... ck... That Country again?
World must know the Truth...

And dont forget about terrorist who bombing our country!
Making terrorist image for our country, and we take the blame for their mistake...

Just Stop Art-Theft... and Be creative Man !
and stop bombing our country ! Coward !

Watch TV and search internet before you claim, ok?

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I agree with ~humantyphoon89
Apology from malaysia and open mind from indonesia would be a good start.

And stop doing that stuff again.

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:iconartdh13:
hmmm...kmungkinan besar..mungkin ini merupakan konspirasi alien...pastinyah...
:iconringthebellamy:
Bagus sekali Kk Archie. *tepuk tangan

Yep, kita mulai dari saling minta maaf aja.

Kita ini satu rumpun, lho. Don't fight. Still, aku percaya kalo ini konspirasi. Ehem. Everything in this world has grown up from conspiracy. Yaaa almost all sih.

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yg salah hanya orang2 yg jadi "art theft" dan jadi Provokator!

MALAYSIA dan INDONESIA adalah saudara!

smua wilayah ASIA adalah TRULY ASIA karena kita ASIA...

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...Everything in this world has grown up from conspiracy...

lho, apakah quote itu dr anime "welcome to NHK", yah??? :XD:
:iconbaltxer:
duh...

i hope this absurd art theft will stop right now...

and i also think a lot of malaysians think that art / culture theft is wrong!!
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Kalau Aku Selama Ini Memandang, Ini Bukan Provokasi, Maupun Suatu Bentuk Invasi Yang Dilancarkan Malay Terhadap Indo, Tapi Ini Merupakan Bahan Intropeksi Bagi Kita Semua, Terutama Generasi Muda, Apa Yang Bisa Kita Lakukan Seandainya, Benar Budaya Itu Akhirnya Dimiliki Malaysia Dan Indonesia Tidak Dianggap Lagi Sebagai Sumber Dari Budaya Yang Telah Di...Bukan Dicuri Kali Yah, Diambil Haknya Oleh Malaysia...Well, Kita Harus Bisa Bikin Dan Mematenkan Suatu Bentuk Inovasi Dari Segala Bidang, Tidak Hanya Seni Bukan?

Seperti Singkatan INDONESIA : INOVATION DO NEED SOME-KIND of INOVATIVE ACTION...Hehehe, Buatan Saya Tuh...Cukup Inovatif Kan? Buka Gerbang Imajinasi, Wujudkan Sebuah Kreasi...Halah...

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